{"id":10597,"date":"2023-05-04T13:31:49","date_gmt":"2023-05-04T13:31:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lonecandle.com\/?p=10597"},"modified":"2023-05-04T13:31:49","modified_gmt":"2023-05-04T13:31:49","slug":"vague-visa-rules-leave-laid-off-twitter-worker-unable-to-return-to-u-s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/?p=10597","title":{"rendered":"Vague Visa Rules Leave Laid-Off Twitter Worker Unable To Return to U.S."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\n\n&#8220;Vong spoke with his interim manager and new team director in December about his upcoming trip. They indicated that it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem for him to work from Australia remotely, so he left the U.S. in January, first visiting Singapore and then Malaysia. There, Vong got the news that he&#8217;d been laid off after all. His interim manager had been moved to another team and his director had been fired.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The layoff would&#8217;ve been bad enough on its own, but because of the rules of Vong&#8217;s visa, it landed him in a bureaucratic mess that now prevents him from returning to the United States. &#8220;February was hard,&#8221; Vong tells&nbsp;<em>Reason<\/em>. &#8220;Coming to terms emotionally with staying in Australia a lot longer\u2026how to move things out of my apartment in L.A., sell my car, and I&#8217;ve been trying to facilitate all of that remotely.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vong was in the U.S. on an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/working-in-the-united-states\/temporary-workers\/e-3-specialty-occupation-workers-from-australia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">E-3 visa<\/a>, which is reserved for highly skilled workers from Australia. Similar to the H-1B visa, another temporary visa for specialty workers, E-3 holders only have 60 days to find a new job if they&#8217;re laid off. Otherwise, they have to leave the country. With mass layoffs taking place recently across the tech industry\u2014which relies heavily on the H-1B program\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/politics\/story\/2023-02-19\/tech-layoffs-foreign-worker-visa-time-limit\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">thousands<\/a>&nbsp;of foreign workers have been forced to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2022\/11\/23\/foreign-workers-are-losing-their-tech-jobs-will-they-have-to-leave-the-country-too\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">scramble<\/a>&nbsp;to find new work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But Vong&#8217;s case had an added layer of complexity since he was out of the country when he was laid off. &#8220;I was thinking, well, I have 60 days&#8217; grace, I&#8217;m still technically employed, maybe I can just like fly back to the U.S. right now, cancel the plans to hang with my family in January,&#8221; he says. He consulted his immigration lawyer\u2014who is also his friend\u2014and learned that it might not be that simple. &#8220;There were all of these potential risks that plausibly could happen because of the uncertain, undefined circumstances around my unemployment, or technical unemployment,&#8221; explains Vong. &#8220;None of that language matches the visa language.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Immigration officials could interpret his employment status in very different ways. On one hand, he was still technically employed, having been given &#8220;two months of a nonworking period&#8221; where he was still getting paid. On the other, he&#8217;d lost access to his company email. They could welcome him back without issue. &#8220;Or it could go the other way where it&#8217;s like, &#8216;It doesn&#8217;t look like you&#8217;re actively employed right now, and this visa requires you to be actively employed, so we&#8217;re going to have to deny you entry,'&#8221; Vong says. An immigration officer might also feel that Vong was intentionally misrepresenting himself, which could lead to more severe penalties.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ultimately, his lawyer warned him not to risk it. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t have a reliable way to get back in,&#8221; he says. Immigration lawyers interviewed by&nbsp;<em>Fast Company<\/em>, which covered Vong&#8217;s story,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/90847175\/twitter-laid-him-off-while-he-was-back-home-in-australia-now-he-cant-return-to-the-u-s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">indicated<\/a>&nbsp;that he was &#8220;right to stay overseas for now.&#8221;&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-reason-com\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"9wdgd8X7ms\"><a href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2023\/03\/25\/vague-visa-rules-leave-laid-off-twitter-worker-unable-to-return-to-u-s\/\">Vague Visa Rules Leave Laid-Off Twitter Worker Unable To Return to U.S.<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Vague Visa Rules Leave Laid-Off Twitter Worker Unable To Return to U.S.&#8221; &#8212; Reason.com\" src=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2023\/03\/25\/vague-visa-rules-leave-laid-off-twitter-worker-unable-to-return-to-u-s\/embed\/#?secret=Flw64CZNrk#?secret=9wdgd8X7ms\" data-secret=\"9wdgd8X7ms\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Vong spoke with his interim manager and new team director in December about his upcoming trip. They indicated that it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem for him to work from Australia remotely, so he left the U.S. in January, first visiting Singapore and then Malaysia. There, Vong got the news that he&#8217;d been laid off after all. His interim manager had been moved to another team and his director had been fired.<br \/>\nThe layoff would&#8217;ve been bad enough on its own, but because of the rules of Vong&#8217;s visa, it landed him in a bureaucratic mess that now prevents him from returning to the United States. &#8220;February was hard,&#8221; Vong tells Reason. &#8220;Coming to terms emotionally with staying in Australia a lot longer\u2026how to move things out of my apartment in L.A., sell my car, and I&#8217;ve been trying to facilitate all of that remotely.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Vong was in the U.S. on an E-3 visa, which is reserved for highly skilled workers from Australia. Similar to the H-1B visa, another temporary visa for specialty workers, E-3 holders only have 60 days to find a new job if they&#8217;re laid off. Otherwise, they have to leave the country. With mass layoffs taking place recently across the tech industry\u2014which relies heavily on the H-1B program\u2014thousands of foreign workers have been forced to scramble to find new work.<\/p>\n<p>But Vong&#8217;s case had an added layer of complexity since he was out of the country when he was laid off. &#8220;I was thinking, well, I have 60 days&#8217; grace, I&#8217;m still technically employed, maybe I can just like fly back to the U.S. right now, cancel the plans to hang with my family in January,&#8221; he says. He consulted his immigration lawyer\u2014who is also his friend\u2014and learned that it might not be that simple. &#8220;There were all of these potential risks that plausibly could happen because of the uncertain, undefined circumstances around my unemployment, or technical unemployment,&#8221; explains Vong. &#8220;None of that language matches the visa language.<\/p>\n<p>Immigration officials could interpret his employment status in very different ways. On one hand, he was still technically employed, having been given &#8220;two months of a nonworking period&#8221; where he was still getting paid. On the other, he&#8217;d lost access to his company email. They could welcome him back without issue. &#8220;Or it could go the other way where it&#8217;s like, &#8216;It doesn&#8217;t look like you&#8217;re actively employed right now, and this visa requires you to be actively employed, so we&#8217;re going to have to deny you entry,'&#8221; Vong says. An immigration officer might also feel that Vong was intentionally misrepresenting himself, which could lead to more severe penalties.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, his lawyer warned him not to risk it. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t have a reliable way to get back in,&#8221; he says. Immigration lawyers interviewed by Fast Company, which covered Vong&#8217;s story, indicated that he was &#8220;right to stay overseas for now.&#8221;&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[493,25,271],"class_list":["post-10597","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-article-share","tag-immigrants","tag-immigration","tag-jobs"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10597","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10597"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10597\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10598,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10597\/revisions\/10598"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10597"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10597"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10597"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}