{"id":13754,"date":"2024-05-25T14:25:33","date_gmt":"2024-05-25T14:25:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/?p=13754"},"modified":"2024-05-25T14:25:34","modified_gmt":"2024-05-25T14:25:34","slug":"whats-going-on-with-gazas-fatality-numbers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/?p=13754","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s Going on With Gaza&#8217;s Fatality Numbers?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&#8220;All the numbers we&#8217;re getting out of Gaza are from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/05\/14\/world\/middleeast\/un-gaza-death-toll-women-children.html?smid=url-share\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">offices run by Hamas<\/a>, the terrorist group that perpetrated the October 7 attack and runs the government (if you consider the government to be functional at all there). But there&#8217;s two main sources\u2014the Government Media Office (GMO) and the Ministry of Health (MoH)\u2014and the first, higher count is from the GMO, whereas the revised count is from the MoH.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In order to suss out the legitimacy of the numbers, we have to consider what is being counted as &#8220;identified&#8221; vs. &#8220;unidentified.&#8221; The MoH had long counted deaths reported by both hospitals and &#8220;reliable&#8221; media accounts;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/adesnik\/status\/1789830300433879344\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">around the start of April<\/a>, it revised the media-reported deaths to be categorized as &#8220;incomplete&#8221; and then &#8220;unidentified.&#8221; When a death is reported based on a media account (and a media account alone), there are no remains that have been identified\u2014so the accuracy of this count remains disputed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you think&nbsp;<em>these&nbsp;<\/em>data-reporting practices are not so great, you should look at the GMO&#8217;s account. &#8220;Way back on Dec. 11, GMO reported the death of 8,000 children and 6,200 women out of 18,396 total fatalities,&#8221;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/adesnik\/status\/1789843278814134430\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">writes<\/a>&nbsp;David Adesnik, the director of research for the nonpartisan Foundation for Defense of Democracies. &#8220;Arithmetic shows there were (18,396-8,000-6,200=) 4,196 men. But GMoH reported at the time that hospitals had registered 5,577 male fatalities.&#8221; In other words: Hamas&#8217; two data-reporting entities cannot even line up their stories.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-reason-com wp-block-embed-reason-com\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ESR7KE9R7W\"><a href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2024\/05\/15\/whats-going-on-with-gazas-fatality-numbers\/\">What&#8217;s Going on With Gaza&#8217;s Fatality Numbers?<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;What&#039;s Going on With Gaza&#039;s Fatality Numbers?&#8221; &#8212; Reason.com\" src=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2024\/05\/15\/whats-going-on-with-gazas-fatality-numbers\/embed\/#?secret=MNe1pNJmW2#?secret=ESR7KE9R7W\" data-secret=\"ESR7KE9R7W\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;All the numbers we&#8217;re getting out of Gaza are from offices run by Hamas, the terrorist group that perpetrated the October 7 attack and runs the government (if you consider the government to be functional at all there). But there&#8217;s two main sources\u2014the Government Media Office (GMO) and the Ministry of Health (MoH)\u2014and the first, higher count is from the GMO, whereas the revised count is from the MoH.<br \/>\nIn order to suss out the legitimacy of the numbers, we have to consider what is being counted as &#8220;identified&#8221; vs. &#8220;unidentified.&#8221; The MoH had long counted deaths reported by both hospitals and &#8220;reliable&#8221; media accounts; around the start of April, it revised the media-reported deaths to be categorized as &#8220;incomplete&#8221; and then &#8220;unidentified.&#8221; When a death is reported based on a media account (and a media account alone), there are no remains that have been identified\u2014so the accuracy of this count remains disputed.<\/p>\n<p>If you think these data-reporting practices are not so great, you should look at the GMO&#8217;s account. &#8220;Way back on Dec. 11, GMO reported the death of 8,000 children and 6,200 women out of 18,396 total fatalities,&#8221; writes David Adesnik, the director of research for the nonpartisan Foundation for Defense of Democracies. &#8220;Arithmetic shows there were (18,396-8,000-6,200=) 4,196 men. But GMoH reported at the time that hospitals had registered 5,577 male fatalities.&#8221; In other words: Hamas&#8217; two data-reporting entities cannot even line up their stories.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/reason.com\/2024\/05\/15\/whats-going-on-with-gazas-fatality-numbers\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[552,53,1302,1301,1545,194,391,389,108,115,158],"class_list":["post-13754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-article-share","tag-conflict","tag-deaths","tag-gaza","tag-hamas","tag-invasion","tag-israel","tag-middle-east","tag-palestine","tag-terrorism","tag-terrorists","tag-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13754"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13755,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754\/revisions\/13755"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=13754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lonecandle.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=13754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}